Search for: Home; Articles. And be nice. 2. That said, drop shotting is my go-to method for nymphing at night. The real secret to tightlining is in staying somewhere between tightline and slackline — that’s where the magic lies. Have you tried drop-shotting with micro-slinkies (1, 2, 3, 0r 4 BBs)? because we love it. Tick. The further away the weight is from the streamer, the more moderate those motions will be. Will definitely try it. George pointed out that nymphs in a drop-shot rig are connected to a tight line, with the shot on the bottom. Nothing is more important than the leader. Tips, tactics, stories and guide service from central Pennsylvania. Also to consider: drop shotting can be done with or without a suspender. Join Troutbitten and follow along. The Mono Rig is a hybrid system for fishing nymphs (both tight line and indicator styles), streamers, dry-dropper, wets, and small dries. I drop shot with a bobber when I want to fish across stream, for many of the reasons George mentioned in the first part of the interview. READ: Troutbitten | Tight Lining — Not all that Tight, “I guess what I do most,” I continued, “is to aim for the same type of drifts that I would with two weighted flies — to touch bottom once in a while, but not too much.”. You can buy George Daniel’s trio of books here to support Troutbitten. Angler Types in Profile Big Trout Commentary Dry Fly Fishing Fly Fishing StrategiesGear Reviews Night FishingNymphing Stories Streamers Tactics Troutbitten Fly Box, Gear Review Policy Terms and conditonsPrivacy PolicyAffiliate Link DisclosureAmazon Affiliate Disclaimer, Gear Review Policy Terms and conditons Privacy Policy Affiliate Link Disclosure Amazon Affiliate Disclaimer, This is Part Two of my conversation with George Daniel, author and guide at. . Stop it. At night, those nymphs are often purposely higher than I like to ride them during the daylight. I have tried them, yes. Focus . all the way through the drift. I used two small tippet rings (instead of blood knots) to tie the droppers to as well as the bottom tippet for the weight. The Troutbitten Streamside series is a chance to step away from the normal, weekly lineup of stories and tactics. . So, like you, I asked George what I think is the central question: when does he Euro nymph and when does he drop shot. And these two qualities determine a leader’s turnover power and the amount of potential drag . This is my home, and I love it. I also prefer to add that split shot about five inches up from the point fly. And the river. Join the mailing list to receive all Troutbitten articles and updates directly to your inbox. It’s how we solve the daily puzzles. An added advantage of this tactic is that the sighter is extremely easy to adjust up and down the leader, making it a breeze to keep it just above the water’s surface. Fly Casting, Fly Fishing Strategies, Tactics. These are first person accounts showing the thoughts, strategies and actions around particular situations on the river, putting the reader in the mind of the angler. , Your email address will not be published. Understand the length, thickness and weight of your leader’s butt section. So, gather data toward those questions, and then branch off from there. Trout Like To Do What Their Friends Are Doing, Distance: Know Your Weights and Measures — Part Two, Troutbitten State of the Union — 2020 Wrap Up, VIDEO | Fly Fishing the Mono Rig: Streamers — Episode 1, Tight Line and Euro Nymphing — The Lift and Lead, Streamer Presentations — The Tight Line Dance, Fifty Fly Fishing Tips: #43 — Two Ways to Recover Slack, Get Short and Effective Drifts with Your Fly, Fly Casting — Five Tips For Better Mending, Lost Trout Are Your Fault — Streamer Fishing Myth v Truth, The Meat Eater Minority — Streamer Fishing Myth v Truth, Fifty Fly Fishing Tips: #21 — Fear No Snag. . . 4. Fish on! . It’s what long-term anglers love about this game. I fished the Provo about 5yrs ago and that’s all anyone talked about. Understand the length, thickness and weight of your leader’s butt section. And that’s why I liked GD’s point about the unweighted flies bouncing — that’s something that may not happen with weighted flies, and it might explain why drop shotting sometimes outperforms weighted flies. They are interactive and woven together. I’m a father of two young boys, a husband, author, fly fishing guide and a musician. I am from out west here (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) and I have enjoyed your site immensely. “Sure. That translates into approximately a dead drift on the bottom. 1. Most often, these Streamside articles share something from around the fly fishing community that I’m certain will be valuable to Troutbitten readers. Great post Dom! At the heart of the puzzle is an eternal question: What do the trout want? Placing the weight on the bottom of the rig and tying in the flies above provides some significant advantages. And learn to accurately judge the distance you are casting. Know your weights and measures . Material diameter and material stiffness. Join the mailing list to receive all Troutbitten articles and updates directly to your inbox. To fish streamers, we surely need weight somewhere in the rig. If you fish hard and pay attention to the details, you’ll often catch, miss or turn enough trout to learn something. Probably because it would take a full series of articles and many diagrams to convey my own take on drop shot nymphing. Material diameter and material stiffness. S-Curves. Tick. https://troutbitten.com/2020/04/30/streamside-dave-rothrocks-drop-shot-video I’m anxious to try this drop-shot business. George nodded. Your email address will not be published. Article from troutbitten.com. Hi. Often it’s just a #1 or a #4 shot. But, overall . Glad to send you some. Consider your fly size and weight. Just an overhand knot? Some of his friends? Article by Steve Cofferon. If you haven’t yet read Part One of this short series, back up and give it a read. This article is part of the Walk Along series. Lead. Drop. I also use it for night nymphing a lot. Virtually snag-less on rock bottoms and easy to change weights. An article about three interactive elements in a nymphing rig. George and I are both aware that the bounce rig is a Provo River staple. That way, if you get stuck, that knot fails and the rest of your rig is safe. Now just a five-inch strip with the rod tip up. That’s what matters. I usually try not  to touch the riverbed. the big nasties (aka linemen) are in the trenches with the defense trying to let Tom Brady get a couple tapes on the highlight reel. https://troutbitten.com/2014/11/05/the-backing-barrel/. Tuck. Many anglers avoid using split shot because it's a pain in the ass to attach, to remove and to keep from sliding. Weighted nymphs don’t do that in the same way.”. What knot do you recommend for that? Focus . The shot at the bottom of the rig makes contact with the streambed, and it hangs up less than most nymphs. With 20 pound monofilament as a fly line substitute, and with fly-line-style casting, better control, contact and strike detection are gained with the Mono Rig versus a fly line. I don’t really like to leave anything on the river bottom if I can help it. Tips, tactics, stories and guide service from central Pennsylvania. I also often feel like the point fly is at least in the first pass “riding the bottom” and a trout isn’t going to “suck it off the floor” so the point in the first run is a waste. “Then all of the sudden a trout takes the upper fly,” he said. I fish for wild brown trout in the cool limestone waters of Central Pennsylvania year round. Nothing is more important than the leader. I get a lot of questions about drop shot nymphing, and though I’ve mentioned it countless times in other Troutbitten articles, I’ve never devoted a whole piece to it. 6. Article from troutbitten.com. We had lunch to talk about his new book, Nymph Fishing. Right?” I asked. . Only downside is if you are too aggressive with your cast it can tangle. Depth, Angle, Drop: Three Elements of a Nymphing Rig | Troutbitten. Truth be told, I prefer to tight line with weighted flies as a first option, but I choose split shot for the weight in many instances, because I believe some nymphs simply produce better when unweighted. All of these elements are intertwined. Now just a five-inch strip with the rod tip up. Stories, tips and tactics from a life on the water. You can find it here: Link: How to Set Up a Drop Shot Nymph Rig. “It seems to me that as soon as most guys rig up with drop shot, they immediately think they have to touch bottom more. So let’s fix that. Before I started “proper” Euro-nymphing I used the drop shot method a lot; it is very productive. the big nasties (aka linemen) are in the trenches with the defense trying to let Tom Brady get a couple tapes on the highlight reel. using tippet rings for droppers. At the heart of every good leader design is an intentional balance between turnover and drag. Enjoy the day. See more of Troutbitten on Facebook. So, now, let me ask you, Dom: when do you Euro nymph and when do you drop shot? Dec 7, 2019 - Explore Wahoowillie's board "Drop shot rig" on Pinterest. .” And I knew something unusual was coming. But I regularly use the same small and lightly weighted flies on my upper tag — the same nymphs I use in my go to nymphing rig.”. I find that in our larger rivers I tend to favour the drop shot simply because I may have a close in section that is not too deep or fast but simple 2-4 feet out that completely changes and I want to fish the whole range without changing too much. The Pat Dorsey indicator to my understanding was NEVER intended to suspend or float heavy shot weighted nymphing rigs. Fly fishing for wild trout. Here are some somewhat random thoughts on the matter: 1. Many of the products below include links to Troutbitten articles for more background and more reasons why I prefer all this stuff in the first place. “Well . It matters. Required fields are marked *, Devin Olsen’s Book Tactical Fly Fishing Purchase here to support Troutbitten. (love it).Cheers. And I was happy to discover that trout, in fact, usually are on nymphs. And this time, it’s Dave Rothrock’s Drop Shop Nymphing Video, from the YouTube channel of Suffering Outdoors. If you fish hard and pay attention to the details, you’ll often catch, miss or turn enough trout to learn something. No matter the conditions, my go to nymphing rig has a smaller, lighter fly on a tag. I fish drop shot in deep water. Section on flies , organization, local waters.. Your email address will not be published. Practical question – I presume that you tie a knot at the end of the tippet so the shot doesn’t slip off. Fly fishing for wild trout. Actually, you want the knot to fail if the shot gets stuck on the bottom. So, as a result, I had great feedback that was both visual and tactile (more often than not, I could feel the rig bouncing), and when I had a take, the little sighter moved in a way that was noticeably different than when the shot was simply bouncing along the bottom, which helped a lot with strike detection. I’m sure I’ll get to it someday, but for now, here’s a quick rundown . And I appreciate your offer to share. All of these elements are intertwined. There are more gems like these in George’s new book, Nymph Fishing. Another idea is to put a single overhand knot above the shot. Long story short…euro for drifting and drop shot when crawling my patterns slowly on the bottom during slow periods of activity.”. Apparel shop included. What I like about the drop shot approach is the great feedback I get from the bottom. They think the way to fish drop shot is to have the weight going tick-tick-pause, tick-tick . I often run the same tag nymphs in a drop shot rig that I do in a standard rig. In Part Three, I share George Daniel’s thoughts on floating the sighter. A bounce rig, as I understand it, is simply a drop shot setup with a bobber. . by Domenick Swentosky | Sep 16, 2018 | 25 comments, Read the Troutbitten Article  |  Buy the Staff. Here are my thoughts on euro nymphing lines vs a Mono Rig. Maxima Chameleon, even the 20lb, carries vibrations extremely well. Troutbitten also suggests using the mono rig to fish streamers even with long casts. . . I learned this fifteen years ago, while tirelessly picking his brain about tight line tactics. I’m a father of two young boys, a husband, author, fly fishing guide and a musician. And many of those adjustments are based on our thought processes around weights and measures. ... You can even choose a drop shot rig for either tight line or indicator nymphing." It matters. My job in this article is not to explain drop shot nymphing from the ground up. Enjoyed Dave’s clip as well. . unweighted nymphs in a drop-shot system bounce and jiggle every time the shot touches bottom. Simply replace the shot in a few seconds and get back to nymphing. Drop shotting makes a lot of sense. I also use it a lot in places that develop a lot of salad on the streambed — so the junk slides off the shot and the flies rarely touch bottom. I do fish it with unweighted flies more than not. I have drop shotted before (heck I do it with various “worm” setups spinning all the time) and to me the hardest part is the cast, there is a lot of crap to get twisted around each other. Domenick Swentosky T R O U T B I T T E N domenick@troutbitten.com. Making adjustments is the key to consistent fly fishing. Thank you all, for a wonderful and busy 2019 season! It really doesn’t take much weight to get down. Reference: “Angler Types in Profile: The I’ve been doing that forever guy.”, So, yes, I am paying attention, if that was a test, Dom? Will that come out with the shot pushing down on it? So I keep my lower flies unweighted in a drop shot rig. Domenick Swentosky T R O U T B I T T E N domenick@troutbitten.com. He’s a gregarious dude who ties excellent flies and has a deep knowledge of trout and trout-water, gained from decades on the river with an inquisitive mind. It’s a great way to keep in touch. In my opinion, the choice of indicator or no indicator is independent of the weight used. It’s how we solve the daily puzzles. Most baitfish don’t drop straight down — but heavily weighted flies do. READ: Troutbitten | Forget the Bottom — Glide Nymphs Though the Strike Zone. I have been watching loads of YouTube videos on the Provo river bounce.Everyone seems to fish it with a fly line with a thingamabobber a short distance from there fly line.Then they do lots of mending of fly line.Don’t see any videos with anyone high sticking it on the mono rig.Does it work better with fly line.Cheers. Bring the rig downstream, with the head pointing down current. . I fish Euro when I feel that tungsten beads work best. I spent the last hour going through and reading your website, wow, lots of good information. . Sep 4, 2016 - Read our fly fishing tips on how to catch fish nymping here. . . However, I also like the simple elegance of Euro nymphing. 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